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Accessibility Service Bureau WG

Summer 2022: This group is currently in stasis awaiting a new Chair.

The Accessibility Service Bureau Working Group (ASBWG) was formed to provide a vendors-only forum in which service providers could discuss specific interests and to help establish best practices in regards to content authoring and PDF remediation.

Oftentimes it’s stated that the standards leave “room for interpretation” and, as such, one of the goals of this working group is to provide guidance to, and for, its members.

Another goal of the ASBWG is to not only better understand how current and future Assistive Technology (AT) process PDF documents, but also to bridge the gap between PDF standards implementation and treatment/processing by AT.

In addition, it’s our hope that AT developers would be open to learning from the findings and recommendations of this group so as to provide end-users with the best, most useful and accessible experience.

Participation in the ASBWG is open to all PDF Association members.

Members wishing to participate in this Working Group’s meetings should login to pdfa.org and select “Manage communities” to request access.

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Access the meetings archive. Access the Publication Process. To contact the community administrator, write to Betsy Fanning.

Working Documents


Mail Archive (2021)

DateSubjectSenderSender MailAttachments
2021-06-02 15:21:52
Thank you, Betsy. The meeting was cancelled because no additional list-testing work has been done. Please take some time to contribute so we can keep the mission of the group moving forward. Thanks in advance, Paul Co-Chair, SBWG -----Original Message----- From: accessibility-services-wg@pdfa.org On Behalf Of Betsy A Fanning Sent: Wednesday, June 2, 2021 11:17 AM To: Accessibility Service Bureau WG Subject: [accessibility-services-wg] Reminder: Service Bureau WG - Cancelled for Today Betsy A Fanning (June 2, 2021 17:12): Hi, This is a quick reminder that the Accessibility Service Bureau Working Group meeting for today, June 2 was cancelled. We will not be meeting. The calendar invite should have been removed from your calendars for this meeting. We apologize for the inconvenience. Betsy Betsy Fanning Standards Director PDF Association (M) +1 571 218 9817 Email: betsy.fanning@pdfa.org Twitter: @bfanning Skype: betsy.fanning ---------- You are subscribed to the Accessibility Service Bureau WG listserv. Login to the member area at pdfa.org to change subscription options, or leave the Community directly via this link: https://pdfa.org?confirm_unsubscribe=indeed&m=2032&h=bf008663f9c4a1f7a445dd9bdf257a36629c6a93&sa=492946325 This list is a service of the PDF Association. For questions contact info@pdfa.org.
Paul Rayiusprayius@commonlook.com
2021-06-02 15:12:23
Hi, This is a quick reminder that the Accessibility Service Bureau Working Group meeting for today, June 2 was cancelled. We will not be meeting. The calendar invite should have been removed from your calendars for this meeting. We apologize for the inconvenience. Betsy Betsy Fanning Standards Director PDF Association (M) +1 571 218 9817 Email: betsy.fanning@pdfa.org Twitter: @bfanning Skype: betsy.fanning
Betsy A Fanningbetsy.fanning@pdfa.org
2021-05-10 16:23:01

Hi all,

As there has been no additional work done in our list testing, since our last meeting, there is no new data to go over.  I therefore propose that we cancel the meeting scheduled for this Wednesday, May 12.

 

Thanks,

Paul

 

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2021-04-06 15:08:39
Hi, 

The Accessibility Service Bureau WG meets TOMORROW Wednesday, April 7, 2021 at 1200 ET (1800 CET) for 55 minutes. You should have a calendar invite.
 
#Agenda:

- Review Testing Data
- Review reorganized spreadsheet
- Call to action to contribute to the testing work



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Denmark: +45 32 72 03 82 
Finland: +358 923 17 0568 
France: +33 170 950 594 
Germany: +49 721 9881 4161 
Greece: +30 21 0 300 2583 
Hungary: +36 1 933 3699 
Ireland: +353 15 360 728 
Israel: +972 3 376 3070 
Italy: +39 0 230 57 81 42 
Luxembourg: +352 34 2080 9219 
Malaysia: +60 3 7724 4059 
Mexico: +52 55 3687 7278 
Netherlands: +31 207 941 377 
New Zealand: +64 9 280 6302 
Norway: +47 21 93 37 51 
Panama: +507 308 4334 
Peru: +51 1 642 9424 
Romania: +40 31 780 1158 
South Africa: +27 11 259 4924 
Spain: +34 932 75 2004 
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Betsy A Fanningbetsy.fanning@pdfa.org
2021-03-02 16:29:44

Hi Will,

Yes, we are cancelling the meeting for tomorrow.  Giving people a day’s notice.

Thanks,

Paul

 

 

From: accessibility-services-wg@pdfa.org <accessibility-services-wg@pdfa.org>
Sent: Tuesday, March 2, 2021 11:23 AM
To: Accessibility Service Bureau WG <accessibility-services-wg@pdfa.org>
Subject: Re: [accessibility-services-wg] March 2 meeting

 

William Kilian <william.kilian@targetstream.com> (March 2, 2021 17:22):



Hi Paul,

 

I have that meeting for tomorrow, Wed Mar 3. Is my calendar wrong? Do you still want to cancel if it’s tomorrow? 

 

Thanks,

 

Will

 

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Software Architect, PDF/UA

TargetStream Technologies



On Mar 2, 2021, at 08:19:06, Paul Rayius <accessibility-services-wg@pdfa.org> wrote:

 

Paul Rayius <prayius@commonlook.com> (March 2, 2021 15:06):



Hi SBWG members! 

 

Today’s meeting will be cancelled.  If it’s not already done, Betsy will be sending the cancellation soon. 

 

Before our next meeting, additional testing is needed so we can continue into the next phase of the project, writing and publishing our findings.  Please refer to prior meeting notes for more information and, when testing, focus on the scenarios in rows 7-9 in the sheet.

 

Our next meeting is scheduled for April 7, 2021 at 12pm Eastern.

 

Looking forward to talking with you all then. 

 

Best, 

Paul

 

 

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Paul Rayiusprayius@commonlook.com
2021-03-02 16:22:22
Hi Paul,

I have that meeting for tomorrow, Wed Mar 3. Is my calendar wrong? Do you still want to cancel if it’s tomorrow? 

Thanks,

Will

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Software Architect, PDF/UA
TargetStream Technologies

On Mar 2, 2021, at 08:19:06, Paul Rayius <accessibility-services-wg@pdfa.org> wrote:

Paul Rayius <prayius@commonlook.com> (March 2, 2021 15:06):


Hi SBWG members! 
 
Today’s meeting will be cancelled.  If it’s not already done, Betsy will be sending the cancellation soon. 
 
Before our next meeting, additional testing is needed so we can continue into the next phase of the project, writing and publishing our findings.  Please refer to prior meeting notes for more information and, when testing, focus on the scenarios in rows 7-9 in the sheet.
 
Our next meeting is scheduled for April 7, 2021 at 12pm Eastern.
 
Looking forward to talking with you all then. 
 
Best, 
Paul
 
 
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William Kilianwilliam.kilian@targetstream.com
2021-03-02 14:06:01

Hi SBWG members!

 

Today’s meeting will be cancelled.  If it’s not already done, Betsy will be sending the cancellation soon. 

 

Before our next meeting, additional testing is needed so we can continue into the next phase of the project, writing and publishing our findings.  Please refer to prior meeting notes for more information and, when testing, focus on the scenarios in rows 7-9 in the sheet.

 

Our next meeting is scheduled for April 7, 2021 at 12pm Eastern.

 

Looking forward to talking with you all then.

 

Best,

Paul

 

 

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2021-02-26 14:19:31

You have been invited to the following event.

REVISED Service Bureau WG Meeting

When
Wed Mar 3, 2021 11am – 12pm Central Time - Chicago
Calendar
Accessibility Service Bureau WG
Who
(Guest list has been hidden at organizer's request)
Service Bureau WG 

Please join my meeting from your computer, tablet or smartphone. 
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Canada: +1 (647) 497-9391 
Chile: +56 2 3214 9680 
Colombia: +57 1 600 9953 
Czech Republic: +420 2 55 71 95 02 
Denmark: +45 32 72 03 82 
Finland: +358 923 17 0568 
France: +33 170 950 594 
Germany: +49 721 9881 4161 
Greece: +30 21 0 300 2583 
Hungary: +36 1 933 3699 
Ireland: +353 15 360 728 
Israel: +972 3 376 3070 
Italy: +39 0 230 57 81 42 
Luxembourg: +352 34 2080 9219 
Malaysia: +60 3 7724 4059 
Mexico: +52 55 3687 7278 
Netherlands: +31 207 941 377 
New Zealand: +64 9 280 6302 
Norway: +47 21 93 37 51 
Panama: +507 308 4334 
Peru: +51 1 642 9424 
Romania: +40 31 780 1158 
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2021-02-26 13:57:16

Hi,

We are introducing a new calendar management process for our community meetings that, unlike the listserv-distributed invitations, actually works (allows changes and cancellations).

You will receive new invitations to the meetings we have scheduled through the end of March. All the details will be the same as the already scheduled meeting. You may want to delete the old meeting before accepting the new meeting invitations. 

We will be using the new calendar invitation process for all future working group meetings.

Betsy 




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Betsy A Fanningbetsy.fanning@pdfa.org
2021-02-02 19:02:23
Hi, 

The Accessibility Service Bureau WG meets TOMORROW Wednesday, February 3, 2021 at 1200 ET (1800 CET) for 55 minutes. You should have a calendar invite.
 
#Agenda:

- Call to action to contribute to the testing work



#Joining the meeting


Service Bureau WG 

Please join my meeting from your computer, tablet or smartphone. 
https://global.gotomeeting.com/join/655026949 

You can also dial in using your phone. 
United States:  1 (646) 749-3129 

Access Code: 655-026-949 

More phone numbers: 
Australia:  61 2 8355 1050 
Austria:  43 7 2081 5427 
Belgium:  32 28 93 7018 
Brazil:  55 21 3500-3941 
Bulgaria:  359 2 906 0605 
Canada:  1 (647) 497-9391 
Chile:  56 2 3214 9680 
Colombia:  57 1 600 9953 
Czech Republic:  420 2 55 71 95 02 
Denmark:  45 32 72 03 82 
Finland:  358 923 17 0568 
France:  33 170 950 594 
Germany:  49 721 9881 4161 
Greece:  30 21 0 300 2583 
Hungary:  36 1 933 3699 
Ireland:  353 15 360 728 
Israel:  972 3 376 3070 
Italy:  39 0 230 57 81 42 
Luxembourg:  352 34 2080 9219 
Malaysia:  60 3 7724 4059 
Mexico:  52 55 3687 7278 
Netherlands:  31 207 941 377 
New Zealand:  64 9 280 6302 
Norway:  47 21 93 37 51 
Panama:  507 308 4334 
Peru:  51 1 642 9424 
Romania:  40 31 780 1158 
South Africa:  27 11 259 4924 
Spain:  34 932 75 2004 
Sweden:  46 853 527 836 
Switzerland:  41 225 4599 78 
Turkey:  90 212 900 4807 
United Kingdom:  44 20 3713 5028 

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Betsy A Fanningbetsy.fanning@pdfa.org
2021-01-27 19:04:02

The meeting notes from the Accessibility Services Bureau WG meeting held on January 6, 2021 can be found on the Accessibility Services Bureau WG page on pdfa.org when you are logged in. We will review the meeting notes at our next meeting and make any necessary changes at that time.

The Accessibility Services Bureau WG will meet again on February 3, 2021. 



Betsy Fanning
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Betsy A Fanningbetsy.fanning@pdfa.org
2021-01-06 16:21:24

Hi Betsy,

 

My apologies, I won’t be able to attend the meeting today.

 

Thanks,

Jen

 

JEN GOULDEN, EDP

Accessibility Compliance Specialist 
Past President, Braille Literacy Canada

Treasurer, International Council on English Braille

343-804-0333 (Office)

613-552-4191 (Cell)

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Sent: January 5, 2021 4:42 PM
To: Accessibility Service Bureau WG <accessibility-services-wg@pdfa.org>
Subject: [accessibility-services-wg] REMINDER - Accessibility Service Bureau WG meets TOMORROW, JANUARY 6

 

Betsy A Fanning <betsy.fanning@pdfa.org> (January 5, 2021 22:39):



Hi,

 

Happy New Year!

 

The Accessibility Service Bureau WG meets TOMORROW Wednesday, January 6, 2021 at 1200 ET (1800 CET) for 55 minutes. You should have a calendar invite.

 

#Agenda:

 

- Recap what’s been discussed (briefly)

- Show progress made

- Ask for contributions from the group

- Decide thresholds for publication

- Target publication date

 

 

#Joining the meeting

 

 

Service Bureau WG 

Please join my meeting from your computer, tablet or smartphone. 
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Austria: +43 7 2081 5427 
Belgium: +32 28 93 7018 
Brazil: +55 21 3500-3941 
Bulgaria: +359 2 906 0605 
Canada: +1 (647) 497-9391 
Chile: +56 2 3214 9680 
Colombia: +57 1 600 9953 
Czech Republic: +420 2 55 71 95 02 
Denmark: +45 32 72 03 82 
Finland: +358 923 17 0568 
France: +33 170 950 594 
Germany: +49 721 9881 4161 
Greece: +30 21 0 300 2583 
Hungary: +36 1 933 3699 
Ireland: +353 15 360 728 
Israel: +972 3 376 3070 
Italy: +39 0 230 57 81 42 
Luxembourg: +352 34 2080 9219 
Malaysia: +60 3 7724 4059 
Mexico: +52 55 3687 7278 
Netherlands: +31 207 941 377 
New Zealand: +64 9 280 6302 
Norway: +47 21 93 37 51 
Panama: +507 308 4334 
Peru: +51 1 642 9424 
Romania: +40 31 780 1158 
South Africa: +27 11 259 4924 
Spain: +34 932 75 2004 
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Jen Gouldenjgoulden@crawfordtech.com
2021-01-05 21:39:28
Hi,

Happy New Year!

The Accessibility Service Bureau WG meets TOMORROW Wednesday, January 6, 2021 at 1200 ET (1800 CET) for 55 minutes. You should have a calendar invite.
 
#Agenda:

- Recap what’s been discussed (briefly)
- Show progress made
- Ask for contributions from the group
- Decide thresholds for publication
- Target publication date


#Joining the meeting


Service Bureau WG 

Please join my meeting from your computer, tablet or smartphone. 
https://global.gotomeeting.com/join/655026949 

You can also dial in using your phone. 
United States: +1 (646) 749-3129 

Access Code: 655-026-949 

More phone numbers: 
Australia: +61 2 8355 1050 
Austria: +43 7 2081 5427 
Belgium: +32 28 93 7018 
Brazil: +55 21 3500-3941 
Bulgaria: +359 2 906 0605 
Canada: +1 (647) 497-9391 
Chile: +56 2 3214 9680 
Colombia: +57 1 600 9953 
Czech Republic: +420 2 55 71 95 02 
Denmark: +45 32 72 03 82 
Finland: +358 923 17 0568 
France: +33 170 950 594 
Germany: +49 721 9881 4161 
Greece: +30 21 0 300 2583 
Hungary: +36 1 933 3699 
Ireland: +353 15 360 728 
Israel: +972 3 376 3070 
Italy: +39 0 230 57 81 42 
Luxembourg: +352 34 2080 9219 
Malaysia: +60 3 7724 4059 
Mexico: +52 55 3687 7278 
Netherlands: +31 207 941 377 
New Zealand: +64 9 280 6302 
Norway: +47 21 93 37 51 
Panama: +507 308 4334 
Peru: +51 1 642 9424 
Romania: +40 31 780 1158 
South Africa: +27 11 259 4924 
Spain: +34 932 75 2004 
Sweden: +46 853 527 836 
Switzerland: +41 225 4599 78 
Turkey: +90 212 900 4807 
United Kingdom: +44 20 3713 5028 

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